September 7 

    [media presentation below]

GospelThink

Sunday, September 7, Twenty-third Sunday in Ordinary Time

LUKE 14:25-33

Discipleship


Prayerthoughts

a. Jesus often uses exaggeration in his sermons. Here “hate” is a strong word with the thought that even family must be secondary to being a disciple of Jesus. Am I a good disciple of Jesus by showing in my actions, thoughts and words that I am a follower of Jesus?

b. “Carrying our cross” refers to accepting the problems of my life as part of the plan of God. What are the principal problems in my life right now and have I accepted them with the thought that God wants me to have these problems as this particular time in my life?

c. Obviously, I must work for solutions to my problems. Do I acknowledge that God will work with me in overcoming the problems?

d. Jesus’s two examples speak of being prepared before you do something. Do I prepare for my spiritual life as much as I should?

e. Jesus uses another exaggeration in saying that we should renounce “all” possessions in order to prepare for our spiritual lives. Do I have too many possessions, some of which I could give to othersf. g. My prayerthoughts...

Today, I will Philemon 9-10,12-17 and write an important thought from it.





Some Thoughts on the Liturgy

DISCIPLES OR ADMIRERS

+ Jesus tells two short stories to get a point across to the crowd around him

- and it is the same point for us today

- that point—you must have some idea of a project before you do it

- if you want to build a tower: you had better plan on having enough material to finish it

- if one king is marching against another: the king had better know what to expect before he starts something

- it is a characteristic essential to any leadership situation—having an idea of what will happen as a result of your decision



+ The same applies to being a disciple of Jesus

- if we say that we will be disciples, we have to know what it means

- one of the more interesting and more challenging American religious people is a man by the name of Clarence Jordan

- he was a Protestant peace activist of the 1940’s and 50’s who founded a place of refuge for persecuted black people in Georgia called the Koinonia Farm

- in the early fifties, Clarence approached his brother Robert Jordan, later a state senator and justice of the Georgia Supreme Court, asking him to represent Koinonia Farm legally

- Bob reminded Clarence that he had political aspirations, and therefore could not do what he asked because he would never be elected, saying that he could lose everything that he had worked for

- Clarence pointed out that Koinonia Farm could lose everything also

- Bob told him that it was different

- ‘Why is it different,’ Clarence said, ‘I remember, it seems to me, that you and I joined the church the same Sunday, as boys. I expect when we came forward, the preacher asked me about the same question he did you. He asked me, ‘Do you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior.’ And I said, ‘yes.’ What did you say?’

- Bob replied, ‘I follow Jesus, Clarence, up to a point.’

- Clarence said: ‘Could that point by any chance be—the cross?’

- Bob said: ‘That’s right. I follow him to that cross, but not on the cross. I’m not getting myself crucified.’

- Clarence replied: ‘Then, Bob, I don’t believe you’re a disciple. You’re an admirer of Jesus, but not a disciple of his. I think you ought to go back to the church you belong to, and tell them you’re an admirer not a disciple.’

- Bob’s answer to his statement—the lawyer getting the last word—was that then there would be no church at all because every Christian was an admirer and not a disciple


+ To me, that is a classic distinction: the difference between a disciple and an admirer

- Jesus says that you had better know what it means to be a disciple before you admit to being one

- and he spells out what it means to be a disciple in the Gospel


1 – renouncing self and material possessions

+ It means renouncing self and material possessions

If anyone comes to me without hating [his/her family], and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. Anyone of you who does not renounce all his possessions cannot be my disciple.

- it is exaggeration, something that Jesus often uses, saying that we have to know what is really important in life

- he says that family and material things cannot be more important than God

- in this matter, are we disciples or merely admirers of Jesus?


2 – taking up the cross

+ Being a disciple/follower means taking up the cross

Whoever does not carry his own cross … cannot be my disciple.

- in this life things are going to happen which are painful – the cross –

- life will be unfair, there will be tragedies, suffering, disagreements, family problems, bad along with all the good

- and the only way we can understand it is to say that God is in charge, and when God is in charge, only good can come out of any situation no matter what is happening

- and so as we look at the way we have behaved, we must ask ourselves: are we disciples or merely admirers of Jesus?


3 – truly following Jesus

+ Being a disciple/follower means truly following Jesus, that is, knowing what he wants

Whoever does not … come after me cannot be my disciple.

- it means knowing what his principles and ideals are and exactly what they mean in our daily lives

- and so we must ask ourselves as we look our Christianity: are we disciples or merely admirers?


+ We do not need more admirers of Jesus; we need more disciples

- in fact, if all we are are admirers, then we really don’t have a church—Bob Jordan was right

- a disciple gives up self, accepts the cross, and truly knows what Jesus wants

- the meditation for us today is the question: are we disciples or merely admirers of Jesus?



 

 

 

 

MEDIA PRESENTATION

Song: "Rather Be"--Clean Bandit featuring Jess Glynne

NO PLACE I'D RATHER BE



 

The Gospel

JOHN 19:25-27

JOHN 19:25-27

Standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary of Magdala. When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold your son." Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home. 

Gospelthink: I gave the care of my mother to the disciple and in essence give her to you as your heavenly Mother. Do I have a devotion to Mary as I should?



"We’re a thousand miles from comfort. We have traveled land and sea, but as long as you are with me, there’s no place I’d rather be. I would wait forever, exulted in the scene. As long as I am with you, my heart continues to beat. If you gave me a chance I would take it; it’s a shot in the dark, but I’ll make it. Know with all of your heart, you can’t shame me."          

There is a debate in religious circles about the identity of "the disciple that Jesus loved" as described in John's Gospel. Many think that it is John himself; many scholars feel that it is someone else. But no matter who it is, there is one thing for certain. The description of the disciple is someone who totally enjoyed Jesus' company and followed closely his words. At the foot of the cross, the lowest point in Jesus' human life, he was there, and at Jesus' request, took Jesus' mother into his safe keeping for the rest of their lives together. For the disciple, it is quite true to say that there was no place that he would rather be.

Such is the description of friendship in Clean Bandit's and Jess Glynne's song "Rather Be." Probably referring to a romantic relationship, the song refers to a characteristic that is a "must" for any type of friendship. Given any set of circumstances, friends will be people who are totally dedicated to each other. Or in the song's words, there would be no place that each would rather be no matter what the situation.

It is a tall order for people who are friends, and they should not make the promise lightly. It means that each will give to the other under every condition. Even if there are difficult moments, they will remain friends. They will be able to say to each other that they would rather be no where else but with them at every moment in time.

Unfortunately in many friendships the opposite is true. Friends will say that no matter what they will always be friends, but leave when things are no longer easy and comfortable. As we try to develop true friendship, we would do well to remember the example of the "disciple whom Jesus loved" to rather be with each other even if it costs a little in the process.

PRAYER

Good and gracious God, we human beings are often involved in being friends with others. Give us the grace to learn how to be a good friend, especially when there is a need to help such a friend. Be with us, we pray.

 

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GUIDE FOR CLASSROOM PRESENTATION AND PERSONAL ENRICHMENT

Theme: One of the signs of true friendship is that each partner will enjoy each other's company in any circumstance.

DISCUSSION QUESTIONS:
1. At the cross of Jesus, why do you think there were more woman disciples than men?
2. The Church has interpreted the action of Jesus' giving of his mother to the disciple that Jesus loved either literally or symbolically. The symbolic meaning has various views, one of which is that Mary is a symbol of the Church, and here is given the role of mother of Christians. Why is Mary such an important part of Christian thought?
3. Project: the presenter may want to spend some time discussing the identity of the "disciple whom Jesus loved." See any commentary on John's Gospel.
4. Text analysis: "We're a thousand miles from comfort." What is the meaning of the sentence?
5. Text analysis: "I would wait forever, exulted in the scene." What is the meaning of the sentence?
6. Obtain a copy of the video to the song, and discuss it.
7. Analysis: In your opinion, what if anything does the description of one disciple as "the disciple whom Jesus loved" imply about Jesus' relationship with the other disciples?
8. The meditation speaks of friends being "totally dedicated to each other." Practically, what does the phrase mean?
9. In your opinion, do "friends" say that they are "friends forever" too easily, that is, that they really do not mean it? Yes or no and why?
10. Why is it so difficult to be friends "at every moment of time"?
11. In general, from your study of "friendship" in college and high school, do most friends honestly mean that they will stay friends forever? Yes or no and why?
12. What does the song "Rather Be" teach young people?    

 

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Fr. Mike Scully is a member of the Capuchin Province of Mid-America